25 May 2005
Peter Hook on DJing and New Order 
Peter Hook appeared on CBC's The Hour at 20:00 EST last night in a segment taped in a hotel during his Toronto Mod Club gig. The following responses are those Peter Hook gave to the programme's producer which were intercut with clips of New Order videos:

"The reason I became a DJ was because Mani of Primal Scream, the bass player told me it was a great way of getting paid to get pissed and it was great for awhile, but then I got into doing it for the music. This is very much me even though it can be quite uncomfortable. A friend of mine Andy Robinson, who's our tour manager was a DJ, and he said sometimes it's the loneliest place on earth and I've experienced that. But most of the time, with the help of the fans that you built up over the years, that are interested in the same things you are, you have a great time. You play a shit record, and you're gonna find no one's dancing."

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"We're driving down the road in Ibiza, and I said something feels wrong. Feels wrong somehow. He (Bernard) says Don't worry, don't worry, we're going on into the club. And we had these 2 kids from Stretford, that we'd picked up in the back 2 New Order fans. And we're driving down and I said there’s something wrong, something wrong here, I don't get it. Bang! Straight head into a taxi. We're on the wrong side of the road. We're on the British side of the road, not the Spanish side. So head on collision, these 2 kids came right over in the front, went straight back, they cut themselves all over. And I turn around and went you alright? "Head-on collision with New Order? Yeeeaahhhhh!!!!!". So we have had our moments but I wouldn't recommend it for life or limb. I think there's a few people from what I can gather deserve to be dead from the way they've acted like Iggy Pop, Bowie, Lou Reed but then again people like yourself say New Order, Happy Mondays, Shaun Ryder you know it's the same isn't it. So now I'm not very good with people like that, I always get very star struck. When we played in Japan last time Bernard we're on the train with Neil Young who's, I'm a mad Neil Young fan adore him, and Bernard says Come we'll go up and say hello. I'm not gonna go up and say hello to Neil Young what if he tells you to piss off I'd be devastated. What if he was an asshole, I'd be devastated. I'd prefer just to stay away".

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"I think you think the drugs help but ultimately they don't. And I've never bought into that I always found music impossible to make on drugs. I mean if I wanna get drunk I'd rather go down to the pub. If I don't hire a recording studio and get drunk in it, I'd hire a pub. It makes much more sense. I always try and teach my children or I always hopefully they can look at me and realize that it's not the way to do it. But I like to think that most of the enjoyment, most of the things I've achieved in this group, I've been sober. You know and I'm still enjoying it sober, as a recovering alcoholic, I'm sober and I enjoy it."

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"I've worked hard at what I do and and every record that I've made I've put my heart and my soul into it and then I work hard promoting it and I work hard playing that's the main thing. I believe in what I do, but I don't view myself as any different from anyone else. I still go to the toilet. Still wake up feeling knackered and cranky I just feel normal really. What does a legend feel like? I don't know, never met one."

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There's (yet) another Hooky interview in The Globe and Mail which chiefly relates to the ongoing influence of Joy Division and New Order on modern bands. When asked what New Order makes of all this, Hooky, speaking from Oakland, California last month just before his band's first concert in three years, Hook said "It's an impossible situation to sit there and think: 'Oh, let's do a band that influences people.' People thank you all the time - it's very embarrassing. You don't need thanks. My God, I've had a fantastic time being in this group; I've had a fantastic time being a musician. And really, people buying your records, most of the time, is thanks enough."

Read the full article here.

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Thanks to Paul.

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